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Almirena
Brain-Tingler



I suspect almost every woman has read some Mills & Boon books. Admit it... go on, admit it. Some may have read cheap thriller trash for the chill-thrills even while knowing it's not good writing. Some of us have met in a posse of bad westerns.

Now this isn't saying all genre fiction is bad or trash. It's not. But a LOT of it is. And most of us have succumbed to it even a little bit...

So spill your secrets here. We won't tell...

*signs up with Harper Collins for a new book to be called "Trash-hold: True-Life Stories of Those Caught In The Toils Of Trash Fiction."* *grins wickedly*

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Half-light, purblind streams where moonlight washes over trees / Lustred with a glow, as if from pearls upon the throat
Where the night's kiss lights upon her; rose's rhapsodies, / Warm as oils, imbue this bliss-fed hour with trembling note
"Where-? And who-?" Her breath's unspoken soul is light's perdue
That, hidden, seeks the unseen with a sigh… "Ah, L'inconnu!"

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Krss
admin



I will read really bad fanfiction just for fun. :lol:

I used to read Sandra Brown in my teens. That's an author of badly plotted romance/erotica novels. I read them for the erotic scenes. It was the first time I'd ever found anything like that published in my country.. Looking back, I realize how cheesy those erotic scenes were..

I used to read bad Romanian detective novels just because I wanted to read detective novels and I didn't have many others.

I read very many books of the Rocambole series. I think that dramatic and very long series is what started the trends in our current soaps, including "he's not really dead, even if you saw him fall off that hill and break his neck".

Total Posts: 2307 | Joined Aug. 2006 | Posted on: 3:45 am on Dec. 6, 2006 | Link to this post
Marion
forebrain



I have read some really forgettable Mills&Boon romance. To the point that I've forgotten it. =P

I did have a very trashy bodice-ripper style romance lying around when I was in my teens, but I liked it very much. I think I will still, if I can find it. I liked it because despite the trashy picture on the cover, it really had a lack of bodice-ripping and in fact had quite a strong heroine (and hero, of course :smile: )

(Edited by Marion at 3:50 am on Dec. 6, 2006)

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r
flatliner



i'm slowly struggling with the 13th, but the 12th was already so bad that i don't know if i succeed.. >_>
without torture i admit that i've read 12 Anita Blake novels, one novella and one short story. 9 of those novels i really liked and i don't really feel embarassed to say so. :))

(Edited by r at 5:11 pm on Dec. 6, 2006)

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Krss
admin



I'm still reading the third. :smile:

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r
flatliner



it's a steady climb from the 4th on.. :p

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Krss
admin



*goes back to reading* :lol:

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r
flatliner



lol! :))

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Santi
Phantom moderator



I read a great number of Enid Blyton novels when I was a child. Now I stick exclusively to classic literature and essays.

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"Ich werde sie sehen!" ruf' ich morgens aus, wenn ich mich ermuntere und mit aller Heiterkeit der schönen Sonne entgegenblicke; "ich werde sie sehen!" und da habe ich für den ganzen Tag keinen Wunsch weiter. Alles, alles verschlingt sich in dieser Aussicht. [Goethe]

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Marion
forebrain



I still read Enid Blyton! But only the Mystery series. I just love the characterisation in those.

Total Posts: 624 | Joined Aug. 2006 | Posted on: 10:15 pm on Dec. 6, 2006 | Link to this post
Almirena
Brain-Tingler



I'm an omnivore with books. Because I'm a fast reader, I need many books - I really do. So inevitably I've read some trash stuff...

In s/f, the trashiest (in terms of having stupid plots and bad characterisation) were the Doc E.E. Smith books. I have also read not-very-good Star Trek books, but I don't feel guilty about it. Some of them were actually very well written, and remain in my collection.

In romance, I have read some truly atrocious books and some extremely moving books. One thing that does annoy me in virtually every romance novel is the exclusive focus on that one single aspect - it's so unrealistic. I have read some Sandra Brown - she was fun to read, but it's not literature. There remain some modern and classic romance writers whose books I will be happy to read again, but they pale in comparison to the vast number of romance writers that I consider incapable of writing anything except genre-limited pulp fiction... and pulp fiction repels me.

In westerns, I am happy to declare I adore the books by Zane Grey. I do not like Louis L'Amour. I loathe all other westerns.

In mysteries, I feel repulsed by James Patterson (ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh); I will never read another Kathy Reichs (I don't like her main character, and the storylines include stupidities that I can't accept); I will not bother with Jonathan Kellerman anymore... I will be happy to read P.D. James, Ellis Peters (a brilliant writer), Caroline Graham (Midsomer - yes!), Agatha Christie, Ngaio Marsh (perhaps my favourite in this genre), Georgette Heyer (who also wrote the most endearing historical romances that owe a great deal to Jane Austen), Boris Akunin (I flat-out love his books. He can keep writing for ever and I will read them for ever)...

Action: I did read Desmond Bagley, and Hammond Innes - I feel no impulse to re-read them. I love the books of Alistair MacLean and will re-read them regularly. Forrester, Patrick O'Brian, terrifically exciting stuff. I like most of Perez-Reverte's (but often not his endings, for some reason).

Literary: I hate Doris Lessing's writing. I hate it. Hate it. I could not finish the only book of hers I tried to read. It's one of the few books in the WORLD I have not finished reading after beginning. I just don't like self-conscious and pretentious "I'm so literary" ism. I adore Eco above all. Borges, Heaney, the guy who wrote that phenomenally good "The Athenian Murders" (incredibly thought-provoking), Ian Pears, Susannah Clarke, etc... They fill the soul when one reads them.

Classics: sheer delight. Dickens, Austen, Brontë, Plato, Aristotle, Julius Caesar, Galileo, Einstein, Shakespeare (of course), Donne, Sidney, so much... I love the classics because these are works that remind us of times and people past (with real information) and they were written when elegance of style and true craftsmanship were important.

Fantasy: Terry Pratchett, Doug Adams, Jasper Fforde, etc., plus the less wonderful such as Alan Dean Foster (who's not always as good as he should be)... and the brilliant Tolkien, and C.S. Lewis. I'll never be ashamed of reading them.

Children's books: again, C.S. Lewis, Funke, and I don't mind Blyton... Milne... etc.

Non-fiction: If it's well-written, I'm interested. I AM bitterly ashamed of having read "The map that changed the world" - it was poorly written, not so much in style as in content. Winchester completely lost it in that book - he padded so much that the actual content could have been squeezed into a couple of pages, and not only that - he made sweeping statements and assumptions that annoyed me from beginning to end. I loved "Island of Lost Maps"; "The Riddle and the Knight"; "Phantoms in the Brain"; "Dream of Reason"; "Samurai William"; "Nathaniel's Nutmeg'...

I hated Kostova's "The Historian". What a let-down; what a disappointment.

I hated O'Donnell's "Werewolves" - it's garbage. Horrible, horrible, horrible, and yes, I am ashamed of having read it. I only read it because I'd bought it, and I kept hoping that it would contain SOME factual information...

I am ashamed of having read Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code". It's so poorly written that only stubbornness allowed me to finish it.

I am also ashamed of having read Matthew Reilly's "Temple". I was told he was a good writer. It's not true...

My collection of books is huge. I haven't even mentioned the stuff in other languages, but... I try to enjoy every genre of writing. The only things I absolutely won't read are: sports biographies (not interested); self-help (absolutely not interested)... and probably some other things I can't recall at present.

Oh, and I have to say I don't like Byron. I like some of his shorter poems, but his Childe Harold I found tedious. I am not ashamed of having read it - but I don't think it's worth bothering with.

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Half-light, purblind streams where moonlight washes over trees / Lustred with a glow, as if from pearls upon the throat
Where the night's kiss lights upon her; rose's rhapsodies, / Warm as oils, imbue this bliss-fed hour with trembling note
"Where-? And who-?" Her breath's unspoken soul is light's perdue
That, hidden, seeks the unseen with a sigh… "Ah, L'inconnu!"

Total Posts: 1033 | Joined Sep. 2006 | Posted on: 4:17 am on Dec. 7, 2006 | Link to this post
Bearic
Fear the banana! That or get me icecream. =]



I'm afraid I haven't read enough to be shamed by a book.

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"Rectitude carried to excess harden into stiffness; benevolence indulged beyond measure sinks into weakness."

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Krss
admin



Hehe. :lol:

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Almirena
Brain-Tingler



What about graphic novels? There are some good ones around, but an awful lot of tosh as well. There's plenty there to shame you. *wicked grin*

I remember reading a couple of issues of a comic that concerned a woman hero called The Thorn. Her alter ego was, of course, a gentle sweet woman called Rose. Does anyone remember that? I picked up these issues when I was about ten - they were amongst a stack of otherwise uninteresting comics at a fete.

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Half-light, purblind streams where moonlight washes over trees / Lustred with a glow, as if from pearls upon the throat
Where the night's kiss lights upon her; rose's rhapsodies, / Warm as oils, imbue this bliss-fed hour with trembling note
"Where-? And who-?" Her breath's unspoken soul is light's perdue
That, hidden, seeks the unseen with a sigh… "Ah, L'inconnu!"

Total Posts: 1033 | Joined Sep. 2006 | Posted on: 10:00 pm on Dec. 7, 2006 | Link to this post
Bearic
Fear the banana! That or get me icecream. =]



I used to read Shonen(SP?) Jump. I'm not really embarrassed by it though. I liked how it was backwards. Most of the mangas are more entertaining in written word - comic book form and more graphic than on television.

(Edited by Bearic at 3:56 am on Dec. 8, 2006)

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"Rectitude carried to excess harden into stiffness; benevolence indulged beyond measure sinks into weakness."

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